i guess there is a lot of pressure on joe biden. everyone says it doesn't matter, like they told us it didn't matter last week. the only way to stop the momentum and the punishing polls that are coming the president's way is to go ahead and answer for the president what the president didn't do last week. the vice president has got to come out and go after paul ryan as if he's mitt romney. he's got to be able to answer these questions. the problem is you have probably one of the strongest debaters on the republican party and almost everyone agrees. even people like bowles and senator simpson have come out and said this guy is unbelievable. you're going to ask joined, who had a -- joe biden, who has had a bad a month as any, to be decks truss on his feet. >> steve: remember with sarah palin, he was affable. >> brian: because it was sarah palin. he's going to be blue collar joe biden. >> steve: joe beer can. >> brian: not the gentle one. >> gretchen: it is a fine line between being overly aggressive which is the role of the vice presid